The Hammer

[Brownie]

The hammer was shown to me by Sweatnbullets while he was out here last month working on the quest, as reported here:

http://www.threatfocused.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3

Using Elbow/Up Elbow/Down, it can be 2 to 3 quick shots to the centered chest area and then by only moving the upper body [ very slightly ], the final shot is dead center middle of the head.

After seeing Sweatnbullets perform this, I was able to also get the Hammer down on the first run through, it is that easy. I asked him where he had seen and learned the Hammer and his answer was that 7677 had shown this in his portion of the three days in Tucson last October here:

http://www.threatfocused.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27

It is a hell of a technique, the head and final shot is absolutely dead on and fast, very fast. I don't know the history of the Hammer, I'm sure 7677 will come in on this though and give us the history shortly.

One can actually incorporate the zipper into the hammer nicely and the two blend well together. Nice trick to have in your possibles bag. Very nice indeed.

[Nscale]

Of Course.. It makes sense.

I will have to begin to work on this. This will force me to improve the proper eu/ed technique as explained by SNB. Hitting the front side of the gut area for a perfect centerline.

The best accuracy at distance is achieved when the elbow is crashed down into the gut, just in front of the hip. This gives you an excellent "centerline."


Being able to get a head shot, fast from the hip is very appealing to say the least. And it supports another use for or variation of the Speed Rock technique.

The hammer is a Must Have.
THE HAMMER

It sounds cool too.:)

Speed Rocked, Zippered, and Hammered = Quick Dead BG

[Brownie]

The best accuracy at distance is achieved when the elbow is crashed down into the gut, just in front of the hip. This gives you an excellent "centerline."

This was what I showed in the Tucson class and have owned since 81. It is dead on wherever you face and turreting from the waist makes it very quick on multiples, if you feel that is the solution that best suits the problem.

It's like Quick Kill hip shooting. Just a variation on the theme of EU/ED and FAS, but it has always been effective and fast. Once locked in, you only turret to face the threat and "get er done". The locked in elbow and forearm does not move, you turret the upper body once set up properly.

It also allows two quick shots that are 1 inch apart from each other. The elbow not being able to move around under recoil, and that recoil coming straight back into the front of the hip.

[Ankeny]

I sure would like to share time on the square range with you guys. I would love to see this stuff in action and try it myself.
The locked in elbow and forearm does not move, you turret the upper body once set up properly.
Is the turret or turning action initiated from the knees?

[Brownie]

Hi Ron,

Just from the waist. Upper body turrets like the tanks gun turrets. If the knees are bent when turreting [ say the right knee shooting right handed ], the shot can be left of the mark considerably.

[PaulDmitrios]

Is there a chance of getting any pictures of this? I'm a visual learner and learn best by doing and then seeing pics if I can.

[Dave James]

You know this sounds alot like what Mr. Jordan was showing me , with the exception he was using a two handed hold with the elbows locked in at the waist,, all adjustment was done at the wasit just like a tank turret, with very slight movement of the forearms for elevation

[Ankeny]

Brownie:

I have a lot of learning and comparing to do. In competitoin shooting, all turning action is initiated from the hips and/or the knees and everything from the waist up remains as constant as possible. Obviously the big difference is full extension vs. locking the elbows into the waist. I would like to try the technique, but I don't want to perform some half wit homespun version that isn't correct and formulate an opinion through ignorance. Not that I have ever done that. :p

[Brownie]

DJ,

It has to be something very close to what I was shown quite some time ago with the exception it was one handed shooting. I think I'll play some with the two handed version.

The elbow/s are used to raise the height requirements slightly as well, but very little gets big results.

Ron,

We should have something in the Denver area later this year. I would hope to see you there, and I'll be happy to take the time to get you aside and show you anything you want, even if the students are not getting all that content. One caveat, you'll have to show me something from your bag of tricks in return, okay? :D

[Matthew Temkin]

Actually I was taught to make the head shot by just shifting my eye focus from the chest to the head.
Since the hands follow the eye the adjustment from chest to head is automatic.
Naturally this can be done with shooting either with one hand or two.
Works pretty good with a rifle or subgun from the hip as well.

[Ankeny]

Brownie:

It's a deal. :)

[sweatnbullets]

Actually I was taught to make the head shot by just shifting my eye focus from the chest to the head.
Since the hands follow the eye the adjustment from chest to head is automatic.


I agree Matt, When I showed brownie the techniqe I was not aware that I had "rocked back." But it worked and when Robin did it, it worked. So I decided to not say anything about the rock back. With the results that we got, I did not worry about the ever so slight rock.

This is really a great drill. It solidifies the EU/ED, the convulsive grip, and making the HG sound like a Machine gun. In Tucson I was getting a fist size group at three yards out of the half hip, which was pretty cool. BUT that is not the most important aspect of the drill. That is the transition to the head. This is where I was introduced to my ability to use my eye/hand cordination. I hammered away to the body, then shifted my focus, and the paper just disappeared right where I ws looking. My shooting partner was right next to me, he did the exact same thing I did at the exact same moment. We just stopped and looked at each other like DAMN!

This transition was my epithany to the advanced application of threat focused shooting.

[RAM]

Roger,

So, it's called the HAMMER.

I did it my first time in a CCW class at FS. I might add I didn't know what I was doing.

They had us practicing Close Contact shooting and after one volley the RM yelled HEAD! Not knowing any different I looked up at the head , my hand shifted a tiny bit and I guess i rocked back also... bang, dead center head box and I was the first one to fire also! An instructor came over and said usually we would put the gun to the head and fire, but it's hard to argue with the results!

I really want some of what you guys are teaching. Iike I told you on Polite Soc. I hope you can get a class going that I can fit into my sched. and location. No.Cal/Reno/LV In order of preference. Philly is a bit far to go!

[sweatnbullets]

Roger,

So, it's called the HAMMER.

I did it my first time in a CCW class at FS. I might add I didn't know what I was doing.

They had us practicing Close Contact shooting and after one volley the RM yelled HEAD! Not knowing any different I looked up at the head , my hand shifted a tiny bit and I guess i rocked back also... bang, dead center head box and I was the first one to fire also! An instructor came over and said usually we would put the gun to the head and fire, but it's hard to argue with the results!

I really want some of what you guys are teaching. Iike I told you on Polite Soc. I hope you can get a class going that I can fit into my sched. and location. No.Cal/Reno/LV In order of preference. Philly is a bit far to go!

I bet that went over like a fart in church.:D

We are on it, just need to get the four of us (brownie, steve2267, 7677 and myself) together to finalize the curriculum. Just one more guy to get into the mix. I am looking forward to it as much as you are.

[RAM]

They hadn't done any specific instruction on how to do it and not much else was said about it, so what the hell. I did notice that almost all the other targets were distroyed by muzzle blast.

It would seem that sticking your pistol in somesone face would leave it open to being grabbed if the shot took any time to get off, at least if the guy was half awake at that point he would try deflecting it on it's way to his head!:eek:

[sweatnbullets]

It would seem that sticking your pistol in somesone face would leave it open to being grabbed if the shot took any time to get off, at least if the guy was half awake at that point he would try deflecting it on it's way to his head!:eek:

Absolutely, that is one of the advantages to EU/ED over a high pectoral index.
The HG is below the line of sight and may not even be seen. If it is seen, it is harder to grab.

Situational dependent though.

[RAM]

That's why I want to train with you guys, so much of what you talk about makes a lot of sense.

I have been to FS quite a few times and have a pretty good handle on most things handgun, now is the time for a different perspective. Or as you say get new tools for the toolbox:)

Hope to see you soon!

[kilogulf59]

Using Elbow/Up Elbow/Down, it can be 2 to 3 quick shots to the centered chest area and then by only moving the upper body [ very slightly ], the final shot is dead center middle of the head.

Just to make sure I have the Hammer correct...

Draw to the Close Hip Position (?) (EU/ED).
Fire two rounds to the COM.
Fire one round (?) to the head using only the upper body to redirect fire.This sounds like the Mozambique Drill ala Point Shooting?

[steve2267]

Ken,

PM inbound.

[Brownie]

We show this in the classes and everyone really enjoys the time spent on this technique.

I was in Santa Fe, NM Friday for a class, and the weekend before in Knoxville, Tenn where the students were performing this with aplomb in very short order.

It's mentioned in the reviews on this site and others without mention of how it is performed. When I wrote about it here, I did not realize 7677 preferred not to discuss the "how to" over the net and preferred to demonstrate to our classes.

Upon asking him if he wanted me to take the basic narrative "how to" down, he thought what was written could stay but would rather it not be discussed in detail further.

I'm sure that is why Steve sent you a pm Ken, to explain the above, but I wanted to make everyone aware we'll abide by 7677's wishes and not detail the technique here on the net.

I can tell you it works, works well, it's snake strike fast and I'm amazed at the results by myself and others.

Think of it as a refined gross motor skill :D :eek:

[kilogulf59]

Understood completely Brownie....no sweat and no problem.

Steve's PM was loaded with the usual sexual innuendo geared towards me. It's a bytch & curse being this good lookin'.

Dis here's me & my twin brother Zeke...now you'all can understand why he hits on me...

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[DocH]

Actually I was taught to make the head shot by just shifting my eye focus from the chest to the head.
Since the hands follow the eye the adjustment from chest to head is automatic.
Naturally this can be done with shooting either with one hand or two.
Works pretty good with a rifle or subgun from the hip as well.That's it exactly.Amazing,ain't it?

[Guantes]

KG,

Thanks-a-lot, keyboard cleanup again.:eek:

[Dave James]

DAMN!!!!!! If'en I had their noses filled with nickles I could retire:D :D

[kilogulf59]

Hay u'all guize dun nert be a makin fun o us cuz we-ins shor nut tak kinly two b maid fun uv

mein mi buuter/unkla cud geta offul dernd med ut yuins..y'all jest raemembir dat ya heer!!!

[Bruddah_Al]

Having the "Hammer" taught to me this past Monday, all I can say is... FREAKING SWEEEEEET!!!!:D

Definitely a tool for when you realize the dirtbag wasn't affected by COM shots.

Mozambique for when things get close.

Now to see if I can push the distance...

[Brownie]

The hammer is 7677's baby as you know.

He really nailed this one "squarely in the head" didn't he?:D Gotta take the training to get it right though:cool: