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Torch
09-09-2007, 05:15 PM
After lurking about on this forum as well as others I made the decision to take Brownie's "Quick Kill/ Threat Focused Response" class this past weekend in Flagstaff. I've been shooting for over 25 years in both the military and the civillian world. I've been to a number of the high end shooting schools and am always striving to maintain and develop tactics and mindset.

Having said that, I can say this was this was the finest real world training I've had. Due to 4 no-shows our class was only 4 people. Excellent, more one on one training for me I thought. I won't get into all the skills and drills, you can read about them on the forum. When I get instruction I try to leave as much of my baggage behind and get into the student mode. I don't want to be coddled or pampered. Brownie has a no BS approach to training. I love that. It's when I learn and retain the most. I put 1300 rounds downrange in one day. I've never shot that much in any civillian school. I actually had to tape my fingers due to wear on my grip tape and trigger wear.If you're not bleeding, you're not training hard enough right? The instruction was intense, focused and fun. When I indicated I wanted to skip lunch and continue to shoot Brownie stayed on the line with me and helped fine tune my technique. Never saw that level of commitment in any school by the head Instructor!

The tactics and skills Brownie teachs and has developed are quite simply the fastest way to kill an opponent.That's the stuff I want. I was hitting targets out to 100 yards using no sights. On the second day my front sight boke off, no biggie, I wasn't using it and didn't need it anyway.

I was a confident shooter prior to taking this class but after completing it I feel as if the skills and tactics taught by Brownie will be the ones to save my life in the event of a real world gunfight. They are the ones I will spend my precious training time on. No more front sight trigger press for me.

Brownie
09-09-2007, 10:30 PM
Torch,

First, welcome to the forum.

I appreciate the time you took to write your thoughts here after the training this weekend in Flagstaff. It is always good to read/hear students thoughts on the training provided in the courses.

It was a real pleasure to meet and train with you this weekend. Your previous skills level and training showed through all weekend as well as your dedication to "get to it" and "get it down". What I really noticed was how you were able to watch a skill, listen to the explanation of how to perform that skill set and then repeat it with minimal intervention.

Stay sharp, and again thanks for the time you took to put your thoughts into words for the members here. I'm sure we'll train together again in the future and I'm looking forward to it.

Stay sharp

ARMY/USMCMP
09-09-2007, 10:53 PM
I too was at the training this weekend in Flagstaff. This being my 2nd time at the training I actually went along to assist and help Brownie the instructor, who I've come to call my friend. I met Torch this weekend and another student. Torch being the one with lots of past military and civilian experience and the other student a person who had only started shooting a few months ago. Not only did I learn some new skills myself; but I witnessed a skilled veteran explode into action with the new skills he was learning and in a short time. It appeared he came to apprciate them just like I have. The new student allthough hesitant at 1st quickly realized that the skills taught by Brownie were easy to pick up and were just extensions of the natural ability we all have. By the end of the weekend I witnessed that new student shooting multiple targets stationary and moving using no sights and with accurate multiple hits using the quick kill and other skills you would have thought he had been shooting for years. I guess what I want to say in a nut shell. Is yes Torch I agree Real world all the way!!! (Look forward to Training with you and Brownie again in the future.)

Brownie
09-09-2007, 11:16 PM
ARMY/USMCMP;

I just sent Torch the curriculum we covered on Sat. We covered 10 seperate skills sets, 4 from the hip, one from behind, two from below line of sight at the nose/mouth level and the rest getting out of the kill zone and laterally moving to the threat while putting multiple rds on those threat/s. If these skills/techniques were not readily/easily transferrable to everyone by making use of one natural abilities we could not possibly cover that many in about 7 1/2 hours of training the first day.

I appreciate your considerable efforts this weekend. You made the weekend much easier on myself in so many ways. I've also come to think of you as a close friend.

Looking forward to this next weekend in Seligman with the scoped rifles;)

Stay sharp