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Flexmoney
03-12-2006, 01:20 PM
OK...here is a drill that you need to be doing. It covers the draw, splits, speed, and accuracy. It's a standard drill.

All you need is a good target. You will be shooting for the A-zone in the target. ONLY A-zone hits count. On an IPSC/USPSA target, that zone is about 6x11 inches (over 60 square inches of "that counts"). On an IDPA target, it an 8in circle (over 50 square inches). When needed, I've used steel plates, with the idea of keeping the "group" smaller than the size of a small coffee can lid. (If you use steel, paint it every couple of runs.)

Now, don't give me any of that crap about any hits on the paper being good enough. This is a drill. We aren't striving for "good enough". ONLY A-hits count!

We usually do the drill at 8-10y, but it's been shot from 3-50y (depending on what you are training for.

I'd think a good place to start, if you haven't done this before, might be 5y. Once you reach the standard* on a regular basis, move the target back about a yard. (this will likely be over different training sessions).

Here is the drill:

Start position: Hands relaxed, hanging naturally at sides.

Procedure: Upon start signal, draw and engage the target with 6 rounds (only).

That's it. Not much to it.

Only count the runs where you got all 6 rounds in the A-zone. 5 in and one just out is pretty good...but, it doesn't count. ;)

* The standard on this used to be 2.00 seconds. I like to break that down and separate the draw from the splits. A 1.00 draw/shot, and 5 more splits of 0.20 equal 2.00 seconds. So, if you get a draw of 1.20+ and the splits come in at 0.18, you know to work on the draw. If you get a draw of 0.80 and the splits are 0.25+...then the splits need work.

Here is a video clip of my buddy, Steve Anderson, going a bit faster than the standard: http://andersonshooting.com/images/video/bdhas.mpg

Ankeny
03-25-2006, 08:41 PM
Here's a video of a Bill Drill I did today at five yards just for kicks. Bill Drill (http://www.trib.com/~rankeny/bill drill.WMV)The time was 1.58 seconds.

Guantes
03-25-2006, 09:17 PM
A,

Pretty cool. That makes fast look slow.:D

steve2267
03-26-2006, 12:00 AM
Holy Sh*t Batman!

Ankeny, what was your draw time and splits?

Also, what were you shooting? .45 1911? 9mm Glock?

What kind (kydex / leather) and brand/model holster were you using?

Ankeny
03-26-2006, 03:11 PM
I didn't write it all down. I know the draw was .96 and the splits were all in the .11-.14 range.

steve2267
03-26-2006, 04:36 PM
I didn't write it all down. I know the draw was .96 and the splits were all in the .11-.14 range.

Sorry to pester you... 9mm? .45acp? 1911? Glock? Kydex range holster? Leather concealment holster?

Is this the same pistol you wrote about in the other thread (2-2-2 drill) -- Les Baer 1911 with Bladetech holster? If so, are these reloads, and, if so, are they loaded less than the typical 230gr ball @ 830-850 fps? There just doesn't appear to be any recoil in that video!

Ankeny
03-26-2006, 08:04 PM
Les Baer PII, regular old Blade-Tech Kydex high ride belt holster. I bought it for carry, but switched to a Glock. The ammo is stuff I use for reactive steel matches held around the state. They are 230 grain RNL at 700 fps using Clays. Not exactly a hot load by any means. If it gets nice later in the week I'll film a Bill Drill with some real hot ammo and a heavy recoil spring so you can see the difference.

Lurper
03-29-2006, 12:16 PM
Nice Bill Drill Ron. Not that this is related to the drill, but my first "real" racegun was built by Les, I loved that gun. My first comp gun was a Wilson Accu-comp on a Gold Cup. I drove to Les' house in PA to deliver the stock 1911 to him and to meet him. He is a very fascinating man. On the way home that night (Oct. 7, 1985) I was T-boned by a 1972 Grand Safari staionwagon. Kinda bent my little Fiero. I was trapped in the car with a busted femur and pelvis. Set my shooting career back by about 60 days.

Ankeny
03-29-2006, 12:28 PM
Not that this has anything to do with Bill Drills either, but I have been doing automobile extrication as a vol. fire fighter for over 20 years so I can really relate to your crash. Ouch.

AdrianMacintosh
04-13-2006, 01:10 AM
Not that this has anything to do with Bill Drills either, but I have been doing automobile extrication as a vol. fire fighter for over 20 years so I can really relate to your crash. Ouch.

Lurper and Ankeny, don't call me...I'm an After Life Care Provider (better known as a mortician):)

Lurper
02-25-2007, 10:03 AM
Here are a couple of bill drills:
http://s89.photobucket.com/albums/k223/Lurper/?action=view&current=BillDrill2.flv

Flexmoney
02-26-2007, 07:39 AM
Good stuff.

I like your video on two aimed shots, as well.

Lurper
02-26-2007, 11:18 AM
Why thanks Flex.:)

Brownie
02-26-2007, 12:03 PM
Good speed Lurper

Lurper
02-27-2007, 12:30 PM
Thanks Brownie. You'll notice that I was not using my race gun. That is an almost stock Taurus PT1911.

Brownie
02-27-2007, 01:13 PM
I did notice that sir, one of the first things I looked for:D

Flexmoney
02-28-2007, 02:23 PM
...one of the first things I looked for:D


I gotta ask...Why ?

Brownie
02-28-2007, 02:39 PM
I gotta ask...Why ?

Reputation and background---------

Same reason why the OP probably posted this:

You'll notice that I was not using my race gun.:D

Lurper
02-28-2007, 05:02 PM
Same reason why the OP probably posted this:

You'll notice that I was not using my race gun.


You know how these guys are, they want to attribute the results to the equipment. :p

Brownie
02-28-2007, 05:32 PM
Perhaps not so much here, but certainly at other sites thats a valid concern Lurper;)

Lurper
02-28-2007, 11:26 PM
Not really concerned, just trying to bust your chops Brownie.:D

Or maybe bait someone into telling me I didn't use the sights.:O

Brownie
02-28-2007, 11:47 PM
:cool:

:D

David Williams
03-01-2007, 12:15 AM
Not really concerned, just trying to bust your chops Brownie.:D

Or maybe bait someone into telling me I didn't use the sights.:O

Sorry, Lurper; your sights are clearly within your field of vision. Good shooting.

Lurper
03-01-2007, 11:47 AM
Sorry, Lurper; your sights are clearly within your field of vision. Good shooting.
Yeah, but maybe my eyes were closed. :eek:
Thanks DW

Brownie
03-01-2007, 12:52 PM
Lurper,

I haven't even touched on "auxilliary sensory perception" shooting skills [ ASP skills ] coupled with enhanced proprioception yet :D

Guantes
03-01-2007, 06:55 PM
I noticed that Flex mentioned that 2.0 secs used to be the standard and the video examples show individuals doing it faster than that. Has there ever been a standard set on the drill operating with EDC gear, from concealment?

Flexmoney
03-02-2007, 09:48 AM
The difference shouldn't be huge. If your good, you might lose a tenth or two.

Of course...a lot of that is highly dependent on your method of carry.

You will likely see that drill run in IDPA matches...from concealment.

If you have a timer, you will be able to see where you are on each aspect of the drill (comparing draw and split times). Then you will know where to spend your time in practice.

Guantes
03-02-2007, 10:02 AM
Thanks Flex,

Your comments mirror what I have found.