How the courses will work?

[RAM]

To any QK instructor,

I am wondering how you guys will be structuring the classes you will be teaching.

SNB, aka, P8riot (sp?) did a fantastic job of reviewing his Sightless in Tucson experience on another forum(PS). Will the your future courses be set up like what his review described... Multiple instructors, disciplines, etc?

Like I've said before I am anxiously awaiting one of your courses that I can fit into my schedule. :)

[sweatnbullets]

RAM, this is how this is going to work. There are The Sightless courses and there are the Quick Kill courses.

The Sightless Courses are the three instructors teaching the four PSing systems.

The Quick Kill courses are going to be one or two day courses taught by QK instructors. The one day course is going to be the basic QK course. The two day course is going to be a very advanced course that is going to get you to a level that has never been attempted before in a two day format.

Yesterday I was out running my training partner through the advanced course curriculum. It is really coming together into something very special. Between the two of us we have around 90 firearms training courses and this one is head and shoulders above any that we have ever attended.

The structure of the course is going to be a building block approach to threat focused methodology. We are going to systematically give you the skills and the confidence to take threat focused shooting into the arena where these skills shine and where they are absolutely necessary, extremely dynamic encounters. This course will be the most dynamic course that I have ever heard of.

I am ready to go, I will PM you.

Roger

[Ankeny]

Will these courses be FoF training, classroom discussions, square range drills?

[Brownie]

Very little if any classroom time will be spent until the end of the course for after action reviews by the students.

Both days will be square range work with movement in the first day and then extreme dynamic movement in the advanced second day curriculum.

You have to learn how to move with QK before you can run.;)

FoF may be introduced into the weekend course. There is a lot of material and drills to cover in two days to get people literally "up to speed". It's deemed more important to give the students the confidence through the skills and dynamic drills exercises before they head home.

The QK courses will be fast paced and we expect students to fire 1400-1600 rounds in two days. Students will be "splittin and hittin" with confidence.

We may not have the time in two days to get to the FoF. I'm more interested in giving students the most skills for their money.

[Matthew Temkin]

The portion taught by 7677 and myself will include FOF.
In fact, the more I teach the more I tend to insist upon it, since it tends to seperate the wheat from the chaff.

edited by Brownie to add: [ In the sightless courses where all three instructors are present ]

[sweatnbullets]

Will these courses be FoF training, classroom discussions, square range drills?

As brownie said....lots of shooting!

Where we are looking to bring people is going to be a real challenge. A challenge for the students and for the instructors. The threat focus skills must be owned before we can take them into the dynamic running and gunning.

Once you own the skills live in the square range, FOF would be the next step. This step would be just to verify that once you understand the secrets to getting the hits on a run, your adversary running changes nothing, you will still own the ability to make the hits.

Dealing with the recoil control on a full run, while pressing the trigger as fast as you can, is a vital step in the confidence department. Square range first, FOF second, back to the square range and push the limitations further, and back to FOF...........the only limitation is the mind.;)

[RAM]

Assuming I am pretty squared away with the basics of how the gun works, would there be any advantage to doing QK first and then Sightless, or the other way around?

[Brownie]

Ram,

If you were to train one on one with any QK instructor for a day, I think you would understand and be able to perform QK better than taking the Sightless course for 8 hours of QK.

One on one will always result in more information being imparted to the student in the same time frame. Roger is "good to go" anytime you want to contact him or I for one on one.

As I understand it, you are comfortable with Roger from another site, making contact with him first would be best. Any questions, just ask.

[Brownie]

As brownie said....lots of shooting!

I had a one on one for two days over the last weekend [ Spooky8 who posts here ].

He fired 1500 rds the first day and 1450 rounds the second day. That round count was for 5 hours each day, or a total of 10 hours with 2950 rounds downrange.

He should be posting his thoughts on the training shortly.

[sweatnbullets]

As brownie said....lots of shooting!

I had a one on one for two days over the last weekend [ Spooky8 who posts here ].

He fired 1500 rds the first day and 1450 rounds the second day. That round count was for 5 hours each day, or a total of 10 hours with 2950 rounds downrange.

He should be posting his thoughts on the training shortly.


My student shot 1250 rounds in seven hours, everything he had. We had to start conserving ammo right after lunch. I believe he could have easily hit 1800 in seven hours, if he had the ammo.

I was not sure of the round count of the class because most of the drills I run are burst of 3-5. In private sessions the student can take as much time on a drill as he likes. He can shoot it until he has it down. Hard to come up with the round count when it is like that.....but now I know.

I have taken many courses and I have never seen a round count like this in a course that keeps giving you new drills and skills.:cool: