Pistol Preference?

[Roundeyesamurai]

Hi guys;

I figured I get things rolling in this subforum with a questionnaire thread.

Which pistol(s) or revolver(s) do you prefer for combat/defensive purposes, and why?

I'm not asking the question just to socialize; rather, there's a reason for it (which I will post after there are some replies here).

For my own response, I have two preferences:

-Beretta 92 (G-SD, in my case), because they fit me well, and I like the way they shoot, and:

-Glock (17), because they fit me well, and are easy to carry.

Likewise, both of the above are among the few makes/models with which I have had no significant mechanical problems.

[trigger]

1911 with internal lazer site. Always been fond of 45 good knock down power was told buy a gunny that with the 45 if you shoot them and they get up shoot them again if they get up throw the gun away because they are not human.

[steve2267]

I'm a 1911 guy. I love that platform. I shoot it very well. The heavy 230gr .45acp round has proven itself over time. My #1 preference is for a Commander-sized 1911.

But when I can't carry my 1911, I've fallen in love with a S&W 642. Now I need to get some of Fuzzy's Safestop rounds.

[Geezer]

S&W 642 in right front pants pocket or right hand jacket pocket. Identical littermate BUG on my left side or Texas holster.

NOT NECESSARILY IN ORDER

1. I shoot it better than any other gun I have, or have had, including Glock, Sig, 1911.
2. Easy to carry in all weather, all kinds of clothing.
3. Essentially foolproof operation.
4. Can be jammed into the body of the OG and fired without problem.
5. Can be fired from the jacket pocket, making a timed shot to COM in less than 0.1 second from the go, three shots to COM in less than 0.5 seconds. This is good out to 12 feet or better.
6. Is indifferent to limp-wristing.
7. Ambidextrous.
8. Eats anything, never burps.
9. Inexpensive, for the price of a semi, one can buy two of these.
10. Can be palmed inconspicuously in condition orange.
11. Ideal weapon for placing the 3rd round in ECQC.

I am sure there are more reasons, but I just ate (Chicken paprikas over brown rice with broccoli) and I'm slipping into a happy tummy coma.:)

God bless and y'all be mindful out there.

[trigger]

The only accessory I need for the 1911 is this. http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=564303


What do ya think?

[Brownie]

I think those things look better on your other toys myself:D

[steve2267]

The only accessory I need for the 1911 is this. http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=564303


What do ya think?

http://www.midwayusa.com/mediasvr.dll/image?saleitemid=564303

Damnation! Do those things actually work? Or are they jammamatics?


(http://www.midwayusa.com/mediasvr.dll/image?saleitemid=564303)

[Guantes]

Mine are:
Beretta 92FS with a Level I by TJ
S&W Mod 27 3-1/2", action job by the old shop in Glendale
Ruger GP100 357 3" (newest member)
I shoot better with larger guns and they have either more rounds or more power and they make better thumpers.

[Roundeyesamurai]

OK, now here's the reason for asking the question:

Basically, all of the responses fall into two categories: Those pertaining to the "nifty-ness" of the gun itself, and those related to performance.

Examine your reason why you've selected the weapon(s) you've selected. Are you gun-focused, or threat-focused in your choice(s)?

Discuss. :)

[Geezer]

1. I shoot it better than any other gun I have, or have had, including Glock, Sig, 1911. BOTH

2. Easy to carry in all weather, all kinds of clothing. THREAT

3. Essentially foolproof operation. BOTH

4. Can be jammed into the body of the OG and fired without problem. THREAT

5. Can be fired from the jacket pocket, making a timed shot to COM in less than 0.1 second from the go, three shots to COM in less than 0.5 seconds. This is good out to 12 feet or better. THREAT

6. Is indifferent to limp-wristing. THREAT

7. Ambidextrous. THREAT

8. Eats anything, never burps. GUN

9. Inexpensive, for the price of a semi, one can buy two of these. GUN

10. Can be palmed inconspicuously in condition orange. THREAT

11. Ideal weapon for placing the 3rd round in ECQC. THREATGod bless and y’all be mindful out there.

This is what one would expect, after all, I spent most of my working years as a carpenter, so it was always about the functionality of the tool, not its aura. The idea of a tool was that it should be an extension of my brain, not my ego or naughty parts, and nothing about the tool should ever interfere with my objective. I guess I have never evolved past homo habilis. That is a very one-sided way of looking at things, I don't expect others to share that attitude, I don't even know if it is a good attitude, it's just mine. I am pretty hard on tools.

God bless and y'all be minddful out there

[Geezer]

RES posted in the initial thread starter: "Which pistol(s) or revolver(s) do you prefer for combat/defensive purposes." (Italics mine)

I just read the topic heading. "Everything but Revolvers."

I hate it when I do stuff like that. Apologies to all.:o

God bless and y'all be mindful out there.

[Spooky8]

Well, lets see. The only handguns I carry are the Glock 17 and the Manhurin MR 73 revolver. I know, I know, your saying what! A French revolver. Well, what can I say. It works for me. It's ergonomics are great for me, and I can shoot that thing real good. The trigger is smooth as silk.

The Glock 17, has never failed me. I never had a malfunction yet, even after 15,000 rounds through it. It's a great point and shoot gun for me.

Spooky8:D

"Save a life today. Teach a child the proper safety, care, and feeding of a firearm" I just had to be irreverent and add the revolver thing

[trigger]

http://www.midwayusa.com/mediasvr.dll/image?saleitemid=564303

Damnation! Do those things actually work? Or are they jammamatics?


(http://www.midwayusa.com/mediasvr.dll/image?saleitemid=564303)

I don't think they are out yet. I do have two of the 29 RD drum's they arn't relyable but I see the design flaw's in them and when I get the chance I am going to tweek them.

[kilogulf59]

Without getting to involved in the answer to this simple question...


If I were to carry a semi it would be my G30.

[Brownie]

Like Spooky8,

My g-17 is the go to daily. It's not nifty in the least. Its utilitarian, the tool I've come to rely on for it's dependability, durability, and ease of maintenance [ simplicity ].

I've carried some "nifties" over the years. The P-7, the P-9S, P-5C, but even though they were nifty in ways, they were all dependable to a fault first.

I don't own any of them presently, they are superceded by the g-17.

[SAWBONES]

Usually a 1911 or the Glock 36.

Bothare chambered in .45ACP, both are relatively "flat" (moreso the 1911) for carry, both are handy and easy to shoot well.
It goes without saying that both are thoroughly reliable in my own hands, accurate and adequately precise with respect to mechanical operation.

[Ankeny]

I have always preferred to shoot a full size 1911 pistol. Afterall, that's the platform I have the most experience with. I carried a lightweight commander type 1911 for many years, until the 230 grain Golden Sabers became more than I wanted to handle (arthritis and tendonitis). I have always liked the functionality of the Glock pistols, but frankly they point unnaturally high for me. So I tried grip reductions to improve the ergonomics.

When the dust settled I found what I consider a good pistol for every day carry. It's light weight enough that I'll carry it daily instead of "not bothering". It has great capacity for it's size. The gun is extremely shootable doing well in the speed and accuracy departments, and the gun is nuts reliable. It's a Glock 26 with a grip reduction and a plus one Pierce mag extension, loaded with 147 grain Golden Saber. I like it a lot. At times I think about going up the scale to a G19, but I shoot the 26 just fine and it will do.

[Roundeyesamurai]

At times I think about going up the scale to a G19, but I shoot the 26 just fine and it will do.

Believe it or not, there are quite a few folks who shoot better with a 26 than they do with either a 17 or 19 (and the same is true for the 27 vs. 22 or 23, and so forth).

[Ankeny]

RES:

Yeah, kind of odd isn't it? One of our local LEO traniers has won 2 guns in GSSF shoots with his G27.

[Roundeyesamurai]

It's a good demonstration of what all of us have been saying all these years- it's a matter of how the gun fits you!

[Spooky8]

I concur with Roundeyesamurai, it's the fit of the gun, i.e, ergonomics. In my department, we use the Salt Lake City plan. Our issue handgun is the Sig P226; however, an officer can purchase the standard, Sig, Glock, Smith, Beretta, Colt for on-duty, off-duty use in calibers .38, 9mm, 40, .45.

Lets face facts, not everyone has mitts the size of onion sacks to fit the 2 X 4 grip of the Glock 21.

If the gun fits, and is comfortable to shoot, and you shoot well....

Well, you know what I mean....

Out,

Spooky8:cool:

[Roundeyesamurai]

I concur with Roundeyesamurai, it's the fit of the gun, i.e, ergonomics. In my department, we use the Salt Lake City plan. Our issue handgun is the Sig P226; however, an officer can purchase the standard, Sig, Glock, Smith, Beretta, Colt for on-duty, off-duty use in calibers .38, 9mm, 40, .45.

In other words, the Salt Lake City plan is firearm polygamy?

I guess those guys in Utah like having multiple pieces!

:D

(I can get away with saying that, I live near to Hill Cumorah :cool:)

[Ankeny]

It's a good demonstration of what all of us have been saying all these years- it's a matter of how the gun fits you!

Yup, and in the case of the baby Glocks the double spring system changes the impulse of the gun. That, in combination with the shorter slide makes the gun behave a bit differently. Still, one would think the shorter sight radius would make the gun harder to shoot. Wait a minute... You don't suppose I am using something other than a pure sight focus when I shoot my G26 do you? ;)

[AdrianMacintosh]

[QUOTE=Ankeny]I have always preferred to shoot a full size 1911 pistol. Afterall, that's the platform I have the most experience with. I carried a lightweight commander type 1911 for many years, until the 230 grain Golden Sabers became more than I wanted to handle (arthritis and tendonitis). I have always liked the functionality of the Glock pistols, but frankly they point unnaturally high for me. So I tried grip reductions to improve the ergonomics.

Ankeny, who did your grip reductions? My G30 is ok but would like to have a grip reduction; when shooting a couple of hundred rounds the 'bump' tends to leave a bruise on the palm of my hand and, like you and others, it tends to point high. I like the 1911 grip shape and think the backstrap of the G30 could be 'flatter' rather than 'rounder'. Thanks for any info on your grip reductions.

[Bugaboo]

G19. Used to be CZ85, but it was not reliable enough. I dont like the G19 for the looks but for the reliability. I have one gun and want to learn to use it well. If it would be for looks I would stick with the CZ. SO: my motivation is the threat through the gun

[flanker]

I have been a long time 1911 Guy also have a Glock23 for special times. Now I have taken to the S.A. XD-45 4"acp ;)