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Brownie
03-15-2006, 09:12 PM
DJ mentioned he preferred a 12" bladed bowie and a little more belly to them than the true fighters I've shown in the Covington and Bagwell threads.

So, here is the story of the Brown Bowie.

Back in 1986, or was it 5, I'd have to dig out the article to be sure, I decided to design my own bowie knife and have it made to my specs.

I wanted D-2 carbon tool steel for the blade so I contacted Jessup Steel in Pennsylvania and had them send me a cold rolled piece that was 18" long, 3" wide and 3/8" thick. I ordered a custom piece of D-2 that had 12.5% Chromium [ a little high for D-2 normally ]. The Chromium at 13% in a tool steel is considered stainless and I wanted it close but not stainless.

I then etched my design with an awl, transferred from the paper sketch, to the steel and took it to a buddy of mine who owned a machine shop. He cut the design out of the blank for me.

I then contacted several custom makers trying to get them to finish the knife and they all told me take a hike. That the steel would eat too many of their belts in grinding it, and take them forever and a day.

I finally found this maker who liked working with D-2 through asking these others, whose name was JD Malloy, also by coincidence, from Pennsylvania. I called JD and expalined what I had. He told me to ship it to him, he could do it and it would cost me $1000.00 to finish it.

I sent the blank to him, told him I wanted a flat, tapered grind; Black Micarta handle with hidden tang, nickel silver inlays in the Micarta, and 316 stainless for the guard and pommel.

Couple months later I was driving down to pick it up. It was too risky to have it lost in the mail at that point. JD told me he had taken it to the NY Custom knife show when he had finished it and it had been professionally photographed and would appear in one of the knife rags sometime in the future and he would let me know which month so I could pick up a copy. Again, I forget which one now, but I have the magazine strored away somewhere.

He told me the grinding ate almost 20 belts. Before he put the handle on the knife to finish it, he took out back and with the weight of the blade alone from 6 inches above a 2" limb, the knife chopped it clean off.

Here's the Brown Bowie, it weighs over 3 pounds and is a real wrist breaker to move around [ remember, the knife is 3/8" thick ]. The blade is 12.5" long with a cutting edge of just 12", the handle is 5.5" long. Always thought Arnold or Dundee should have been using a real knife instead of those toothpicks in the movies myself:D

Enjoy

BTW-That other knife above the Brown Bowie with the pronounced clip point and edge down in the photo?

It was made by a mountain man in Montana back in the 30's from a Ford model A leaf spring. A razor blade of a knife :eek:

DocH
03-16-2006, 08:15 AM
Killer! They both look ferocious. Gives me the heebie-jeebies just looking at them.

Dave James
03-16-2006, 10:55 AM
Brownie, it looks alot like a pair I had made by a blade maker in the hills of Vietnam, one actualy had a 14" blade, and etched dragoons on both with in the teak handels, guards had been made out of 223 and AK brass given to him, he even made water buff sheaths for them,, I put them to get use for about 18mos, and on the second rotation home gave them to a Rhade Chieftan, whom if not dead I would assume still has them..

Brownie
03-16-2006, 11:41 AM
Either of them got enough belly for ya DJ?:D

Both are heavy and would be better choppers than true bowie fighters.

Wonder what the guy made the blades out of over there, obviously tool steel, perhaps jeep springs similair to the mountain man bowie in the pic. Teak handles? Nice wood to use, pretty impervious to rot from the humidity there. Water buff sheaths, very nice indeed.

Doc;

They'll bite ya bad, don't ask me how I know :eek:

Dave James
03-16-2006, 04:56 PM
Yay that was kind of the idea "Choppers" blades as I remember where out of scrap steel, who knows where it came from or what it was, they where real fond of a type of short sword, that had a blade about 18 or 20" long..

I quess for pure fighters less belly is better,, I have three I want to modifiy, A KurKuri, a Bolo and a FOX Bolo that is supposed to be an Itailan Air Force issue.

Roundeyesamurai
03-16-2006, 05:00 PM
Hey Dave, what brand is the khukri you want to modify?

Brownie
03-16-2006, 05:27 PM
DJ,
You do like them big bellied blades don't you?:cool:

JMusic
03-16-2006, 06:31 PM
Brownie, how are you guys posting these pictures? I have a knife Dad had made for me I would like to show. A General Motors tool and die makers special!!!
thanks JIM

steve2267
03-16-2006, 08:46 PM
To post a picture, you have two choices:

You can insert a link to an image that already resides on the World Wide Web. This implies that you can type an URL into the address bar of your favorite browser and view the image inside your browser. There are two ways to do this:

Type it manually: URL goes here where "URL goes here" is replaced by, for example: http://www.camp.com/pics/kimber/Kimber_Compact_Stainless_left.jpg
or click on the http://www.threatfocused.com/forums/images/editor/insertimage.gif button at the top of the forum editor, and then paste in the URL of the image cut from your browser window

If your image does not yet reside on the WWW, you can upload an image from your computer. I'm not sure what limits I have set on the TFF bulletin board software... I think pics under 250,000 bytes are OK at this time. To do this, click on the http://www.threatfocused.com/forums/images/editor/attach.gif button at the top of the forum editor to get a Manage Attachments popup window. In this Manage Attachments popup window, click on the Browse button to the right of the Upload File from your Computer field. Browse to the file on your local computer, click OK. Then click on the Upload button to the right of the Browse button. Your image should then be attached to your post.


Hope these instructions are clear. If not, feel free to ask questions via additional posts so that everyone else can benefit from your questions.

Brownie
03-17-2006, 01:53 AM
JM,

Get that pic up for us, sounds interesting with a good story behind it. Looking forward to seeing it.

KenpoTex
10-23-2006, 12:17 AM
Brownie, that's a heckuva knife, I love the handle and guard design.

Brownie
10-23-2006, 12:25 AM
Thanks for the thoughts Matt,

JMusic
10-23-2006, 04:48 PM
Here's the knife my Daddy had made for me back in the 60's. He wouldn't let me have it for awhile (he was afraid I throw it into something and break it) but I finally have possetion. Brownie and Sastre have both looked at it and feel it is a deceint design and balance. Me I don't have a clue. I like the M1 bayonet you can through that f#$cker like a spear.:D The GP is in the picture for perspective, sheath made by our own Mike Sastre.

DocH
10-23-2006, 05:39 PM
One good looking "sword".:D Good looking GP,too! I love the stags.
(I love calling it a GP too. Blows the young guys minds!:confused: )

JMusic
10-23-2006, 06:26 PM
Showing my age ain't I Doc?:)

Jim

Guantes
10-23-2006, 06:35 PM
That is a beautiful knife, even though I have never really been a bowie fan.
You guys keep switching all these terms, I won't know what your talking about.
Knives I generally go bigger or smaller. Did somebody say sword?

Brownie
10-23-2006, 06:43 PM
G,

I have a practice sword that looks exactly like that one in your photo. Haven't picked it up since moving to the desert, but I used to swing that thing in the garage back east where it was kept pretty regularly.

Here I thought you were not into the blades, then you throw up that photo and we see you have once again been holding out on us.:D

btw-I've had the pleasure of handling Jim's bowie, it is a pretty good piece of steel and works in the hand nicely in the bowie flow drills I practice. He's got a custom sheath for it [ shown in the photo ] that brings it out from hidden PDQ

Guantes
10-23-2006, 06:56 PM
This one will slice tomatoes.

Man's gotta have a few secrets.;)

Mike Sastre
10-24-2006, 05:55 AM
Jim's knife impressed the hell out of me!! Balance and feel are perfect for the Bowie techniques, but it was the handle shape that really blew me away. Locks in the hand during back cut flows and asolutly shines using the extended sabre grip. Maker definitely knew what he was about!

SPG
01-31-2007, 01:48 PM
Going through old posts...Brownie, I forgot about that BAD boy!!! Guys you Know you are holding a "knife" with this one! SPG

grimreaper1973
02-22-2008, 09:13 PM
Brownie,

Those are some really mean looking knives. When you went into detail about the creation of such a beautiful knife, I couldn't help but drool. What a special piece! With the blade at 12.5", I would think it more of a short sword than a knife...but there isn't anything "short" about that beauty.

Bryn Reynolds
03-06-2008, 05:36 PM
Just saw this thread and had to commnet...what a beautiful design!

Bryn

Brownie
03-06-2008, 07:15 PM
grimreaper1973,

Thanks for your comments on the Brown Bowie

Bryn,

I worked out the design at a sub shop I used to frequent late at night with the owner [ a friend ]. I would sit at a table and wait for him to close up occasionally, and got bored one night and started drawing what I wanted in what are considered "over-sized" bowies.

It's too heavy to use in any real world ventures, it's a chopper, not a fighter. I appreciate your thoughts as well.

Thanks guys