Does older equal meaner?

[shaman]

How have your philosophies evolved toward combat tactics as you've grown older and wiser?

Are you more likely to gravitate toward a quick and dirty technique or tactic to end a conflict or have you developed a philosophy of doing the minimum required to resolve the issue?

Training effects different people in different ways. With the mind as the limiting factor in any situation, what limits have you placed (or removed) on/from your toolset?

[DocH]

My number one priority is avoidance if possible.More so than in past years.

We grow too soon old and too late smart. My agility and strength has decreased since my youth.I think I'm somewhat smarter.

I believe it was in Stuart Lake's autobiography of Wyatt Earp that Earp's father was instucting him of the meanness found in men. He told his son to always avoid a fight if possible but if it had to come to a fight to "Hit first,hit fast,and hit to kill." These days,that's the way I see it. No use in pussyfootin' around. Finish it.

[Dave James]

As i tell my sons, "No time to dance,I'll take your knee caps out" :D

Pretty well sums it up for me

[David Williams]

Not necessarily *meaner*...but definitely dirtier.

Apart from the rare enlightened young buck, it seems that only the older dudes recognize that there is no such thing as "underhanded" when it comes to a fight.
To balance that out, though, is a general reluctance to get into a fight in the first place...most old-timers I know will go well out of their way to avoid an outright physical confrontation.

From my WWII-era grandfather came this classic line:
"He may d*mn well kick my tail, son...but you can bet he'll never want to do it again."

[JMusic]

I never did believe in getting grass stains on my pants. I normally tried to hit first, with something hard, then take advatage from there. I would be less likely to fight nowadays but still do once in a while. I believe a fight is a life or death situation and treat it as such.:D


Jim

[Guantes]

Given the definition of mean, I don't think that that is the case, but other things come into the equation.

You know that you have no interest in a fight unless absolutely necessary.
You know that you may get injured more easily.
You know that you will take longer to heal.
You know that the longer the fight goes the worse your odds.
You know that you don't have the patience for fools that you may have had at one time.
You know that young guys are often worried about stature, you are only worried about winning and quickly.

I would call it a more pragmatic approach.

[shaman]

Yes, Mr. Guantes. I do believe that pragmatic is a better word for what were discussing, but "mean" makes for a much more provocative thread title. :D

When I was young, I was pretty merciful. I really viewed hurting the other guy any worse than a black eye or busted lip as unnecessary. I'm still not a sadist and appreciate the humanity of the other person in the conflict. But, as I've practiced AiKiDo and other martial arts, been to more and more of the world, and met more different types of people, I've more or less awakened to the philosophy that sometimes you have to hurt that person some so you don't have to hurt them a lot. And, sometimes you just have to hurt them a lot because that's what it takes.
I'd file that under pragmatism rather than meanness.

[Brownie]

Yes, Mr. Guantes. I do believe that pragmatic is a better word

Mr. G:D I wonder if thats what the boys in the hood called you behind your back?;)

[Dave James]

I'll bet it was MR.PECKERWOOD!!!!:D :D

[Guantes]

Actually it was more like, "La Huda, Binche' Guantes.". Don't hold me on the spelling.

[Brownie]

Okay G,

I did the spanish to english dictionary thing and can't find a translation, not even a loose translation, so

Can you give us the skinny on what to hell they were saying?:D

[Guantes]

B,

La Huda was a term they called us, I think it meant the heat. This was more popular than La Placa, which means the badge. Binche', means bitch, then Guantes. As I said I am not sure of the spelling and much of the talk was not true spanish but "chicano spanglish".

[JMusic]

Maybe its short for bitc#& slapping!:p I love it!!

Jim

[Brownie]

Does older equal meaner?

The older I get, the less prone I am to listen to BS and consequently the more prone I am to be premptive and put them out of their misery.:cool:

I have a hard time just walking away if no other reason that I have to turn my back to do so :D

[Dave James]

As a favorite old man I knew used to say,,,

"Ya come hear to sing,,Or get your ass whipped?"

[David Williams]

The older I get, the less prone I am to listen to BS and consequently the more prone I am to be premptive and put them out of their misery.:cool:

Sooo... it only gets worse from here, then? LMAO!

[LongRider]

Given the definition of mean, I don't think that that is the case, but other things come into the equation.

You know that you have no interest in a fight unless absolutely necessary.
You know that you may get injured more easily.
You know that you will take longer to heal.
You know that the longer the fight goes the worse your odds.
You know that you don't have the patience for fools that you may have had at one time.
You know that young guys are often worried about stature, you are only worried about winning and quickly.

I would call it a more pragmatic approach.

That is most excellent. I think I was meaner when I was younger. More game to go a few rounds and liked seeing how much pain I could cause. Actually like seeing how hard a hit I could take too. Being short that means they got to break their knuckles on my forehead. Which is why I doubt I can take any more concussions. These days option one is leave I have nothing to prove to anyone. Option two getter done NOW

Actually it was more like, "La Huda, Binche' Guantes.". Don't hold me on the spelling.

Pronounced pinch hey? You didn't work vice in drag did you? Sorry its late the meds are kicking in

[AZ Husker]

I'm finding my age and maturity an intimidation factor. Punks don't know what to do when a middle age guy doesn't cower. I believe experience shows. My confidence is as high as it's ever been. While I do realize I can't grapple as long as before, I don't have to. My fears of youth are gone, and I believe in a terrible swift offense and a quick decisive finish.

[JMusic]

Preemptive is the word. Some people are smart enough to know that and the rest of us learn it the hard way.:p


Jim

[RAM]

B,

La Huda was a term they called us, I think it meant the heat. This was more popular than La Placa, which means the badge. Binche', means bitch, then Guantes. As I said I am not sure of the spelling and much of the talk was not true spanish but "chicano spanglish".

Huh... Girl dog in heat wearing gloves... loses something in the translation!

Or is it: A hot girl wearing only gloves? I like this one better! :D

[Guantes]

My understanding from talk with bangers was that binche (bitch) was not so much a reference to a female dog as just a derogatory term used like SOB. They would use it referencing someone they did not like such as, " That binche Casper."
Used like an alert or warning it would be, "The heat, that bitch, Gloves!".

[RAM]

Gloves,

Sorry, that was a poor attempt at a joke. See how things get lost in translation!

[Guantes]

RAM,

No offense taken, I thought it was funny.

I can only judge by the fact that when it was said, no one was smiling or laughing and some were running. :)

[RAM]

Sorry for the hijack.

Last time I promise.

//www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pinche

[AZ Husker]

Boy, the threads here sure get off topic in a hurry!

[Brownie]

AZ Husker,

I'm as guilty of that as anyone. :o

Conversations here are sometimes like a leisurely Sunday drive down a country roads enjoying the scenery between friends. If we're enjoying the company we find we stray to the edge of the information highway.:D

[Sgt443]

AZ Husker,

I'm as guilty of that as anyone. :o

Conversations here are sometimes like a leisurely Sunday drive down a country roads enjoying the scenery between friends. If we're enjoying the company we find we stray to the edge of the information highway.:D

And that's what makes this such a great place.:)

[AZ Husker]

I'm smelling the flowers on the roadside already. What a place!