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Ankeny
03-25-2006, 08:25 PM
I have been meaning to get out and film this drill. I finally got to the range today. I set the drill up and ran it stone cold, no warm up draws, just grip it and rip it. I screwed up and missed the first shot at the last target so I had to shoot three times on target three. Here's the film. It's a .wmv file.
First Run (http://www.tribcsp.com/~rankeny/fast splits.WMV)
The time was 1.79 and breaks down as .96 draw .18 split, .15 transition and .15 split, .11 transition and .09 split, .15 make up shot. Obviously I went berserk on the last target.
I was more in control on the second run with a 1.71.Second Run (http://www.tribcsp.com/~rankeny/2times3.WMV)

I filmed a quick Bill Drill while I was set up because Flex mentioned the Bill Drill in another thread. The time was 1.58 seconds.
Bill Drill (http://www.tribcsp.com/~rankeny/bill drill.WMV)

The pistol is my old carry gun and IDPA pistol, a Les Baer .45. The holster is a Blade Tech. FWIW, the draws were .96, .97, and .96 respectively. The distance was 5-6 yards or there about. As you can see, I don't have an exceptionally fast draw (for the level at which I compete), but I do OK once I get into gear.

I feel like I am adequate at running the gun, but I still feel very inadequate in the area of tactics and strategy. Good pistolcraft is nice, but it's still only part of the total equation.
sweatnbullets
03-25-2006, 08:55 PM
Very nice Ankeny! The ability to call your shots and to know that you missed that one is really eye opening. At the speed that you shoot, to know that you missed is really something I am going to have to become more aware of.

You may not be the fastest out of the holster, (faster than me) but the splits and the transitions are smoking.

Really good to have you here, I really appreciate your perspectives.:cool:
steve2267
03-25-2006, 11:04 PM
Ankeny, on these 2-2-2 drills, and on the Bill Drill... are you

hard threat focused (not aware of the sights, but perhaps aware of the position of the gun)?
soft threat focused (focused on the target, but watching alignment of fuzzy sights?
hard front sight focused?


Gotta get me a Bladetech!

Nice shootin'!
JMusic
03-26-2006, 06:35 AM
Good shootin Tex!! Really one of the first clips I've seen that is truely impressive.
Jim
Dave James
03-26-2006, 07:11 AM
SMOKE"N!!

As the youger crowd says:D
Flexmoney
03-26-2006, 09:09 AM
Very nice Ankeny! The ability to call your shots and to know that you missed that one is really eye opening. At the speed that you shoot, to know that you missed is really something I am going to have to become more aware of.


It's not just know about the misses...it is also knowing about the hits. The knowing allows the speed.

Nice vid Ron!
Ankeny
03-26-2006, 02:25 PM
With the 2-2-2 drill I am looking through the sights but the sights do not have to be pefectly aligned and they don't need to be in the center of the A box. I see enough to make and call the shot and nothing more. The term for the quality of hit you will accept is "visual acceptability" and I was willing on the 2-2-2 drill to accept any hit near COM. On the Bill Drill only A's count so I watch the sights through their lift and return cycle and I stay on them pretty hard.
steve2267
03-26-2006, 03:32 PM
On the Bill Drill only A's count so I watch the sights through their lift and return cycle and I stay on them pretty hard.

How does one learn how to watch the sights through their lift and return cycle? Can anyone learn to do this? Or are only a few able to accomplish this feat? To me it has always seemed that the slide cycles so fast... that it is too fast for me to learn to follow with my eye. (Of course, within 30 ft, I am going to use QK, so it is a moot point of sorts... still I'm a curious sort of guy.) Are their drills or exercises that will develop this ability to watch the sights through the entire recoil process?
DocH
03-26-2006, 04:13 PM
SMOKE"N!!

As the youger crowd says:DABSOLUTELY! and as Sweatnbullets said,the ability to call that miss and make up for it at that speed is phenominal. I definetely want to be you friend.
Flexmoney
03-26-2006, 07:46 PM
Anybody can learn to track the sight in recoil.

One drill is to empty the gun while shooting into the berm (aiming at nothing) as fast as possible...
Brownie
03-27-2006, 12:11 PM
Pretty damned fast on the trigger Ron,

Nice work
PhoneCop
10-04-2008, 10:38 PM
The draws were funky, and yes, I see that I had the targets too close.
They are in the order I shot them. The first run was dead cold, no draw practice, no warming up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njC5e3HjLYg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fP3zy4Y7Rg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnENM7NANQ4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUz5pJrytA0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGvz87bw2m0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elvHyMVp03M
Brownie
10-05-2008, 06:15 PM
You were definately threat focused below line of sight on the drills. A little closer than the 2-2-2 drills we've run in the past, but who cares, you're on threat at below line of sight and thats not a bad thing is it?;)

Welcome to the forum PhoneCop.
DocH
10-06-2008, 05:57 AM
Welcome to the forum,PhoneCop. Good videos and good shooting.1911?
PhoneCop
10-30-2008, 10:53 PM
You were definately threat focused below line of sight on the drills. A little closer than the 2-2-2 drills we've run in the past, but who cares, you're on threat at below line of sight and thats not a bad thing is it?;)

Welcome to the forum PhoneCop.

I do appreciate the welcome.
PhoneCop
10-30-2008, 10:56 PM
Welcome to the forum,PhoneCop. Good videos and good shooting.1911?


Thank you.

I was shooting my Kimber Supermatch II with a Steve Cline polished trigger, Dawson H-Viz front sight. Factory 230 grn magtech ammo for these videos.

I really love that gun... it's the focus of many my passwords at word- ya know, the ones which are sentences instead of just a word.

Anyone else do that?
JMusic
10-31-2008, 02:01 PM
Welcome and good shooting.:) If you do any more clips film them from the gun side if you can. I always like to see a persons draw, you learn alot watching the little things a person does when they are performing their drill. Whats your opinion on movement and shooting? I notice some peole draw first then move while others move then draw?

Nice Kimber.:cool: I've gotten lazy shooting a Glock but you can't beat government models for speed.:D


Jim
Guantes
10-31-2008, 06:57 PM
Nobody asked me, but I'm partial to moving and drawing at the same time.
DocH
10-31-2008, 07:10 PM
Jim,here you are again. I believe I told you I'd report back on this a while back. Sorry,I forgot. I had my wife and my brother in law observe at the farm the last time I shot,and I didn't make any conscious effort either way,just did as I normally do. They both said I appeared to be starting the move and the draw at about the same time. As I said before ,I had never really thought about it until you mentioned it. Should I try to change it? Seems to work out pretty well,as is,but I'm not set in stone on anything. (Much.:D)