Shooting on the move

[sweatnbullets]

Brownie and I have made a number of claims about shooting on the run. We are now teaching people to do it with very good success.

What I would like to know is what do you guys do to get hits in your most dynamic training.

How fast do you move?

What type of movement do you use?

What distance are you talking about?

How do you aim?

[Dino]

Usually at about 10ft. Speed? I guess it would be considered a run. I start off standing still or walking slowly and then try to explode one way or the other while returning fire. I just point my feet in the direction I want to go and keep the gun on target. Target focus with gun at eye level or slightly lower at about the nose. Did some last week on a 9" steel target with good results.

[7677]

I have been moving and shoooting and advocated/taught moving and shooting when the majority the top instructors were still teaching stand and deliver only. The one thing I found in all of my training and real life experiences is that I don't think about it; I just do it. :cool:

[JMusic]

At close ranges 6ft or less I move around the line of fire and in. Out past that depends on cover and the situation. I have always moved and delivered or moved. Something about gunshots in my direction makes my feet wanta move!:)
Jim

[RAM]

Gun about chin high, both eyes open, run like hell in almost any direction, shoot one or two handed as needed for the direction of fire.

Roger,

I tried it out with the air soft, (with working trigger) 99-100% hits. You saw me make 96-97 % hits with a bad trigger. Now that it is fixed look out! :D

[Low Drag]

I train to move in a flanking move if no cover around, move just shy of a run. Start at about 4 or 5 yards. I've found I can get a shot off faster this way than drawing without moving.

[sweatnbullets]

Gun about chin high, both eyes open, run like hell in almost any direction, shoot one or two handed as needed for the direction of fire.

Roger,

I tried it out with the air soft, (with working trigger) 99-100% hits. You saw me make 96-97 % hits with a bad trigger. Now that it is fixed look out! :D

RAM, what are your thoughts on whether this skill needs to be practiced regularly. I am leaning to the fact that once it is learned it is a natural ability that requires very little maintenace.

Jmusic, brownie jump in and let me know your thoughts on this.

[JMusic]

I don't practice it much. Not because I don't think it would improve your abilities but its hard to find a place around here to do it. Shooting and running is not as difficult as shooting from a moving vehicle. If you can master that you can easily shoot and move. It is hard to say if A happens do B. You do this instinctivley only thing is don't forget lesson number one. Kept your eyes on the threat. That will dictate where and how to go. I can't remember ever using two hands when doing this technique. Many times I am using a light especially if I slow down and decide to slug it out some. With that said I can't ever remember doing that in the open unless I was laying down. Don't run in straight lines. I don't zig zag but run in a circular directions. As I said when close around and in when trying to get distance away and out.
Jim

[Brownie]

what are your thoughts on whether this skill needs to be practiced regularly. I am leaning to the fact that once it is learned it is a natural ability that requires very little maintenace.

How much maintenance is required when one can be shown in a day, maybe two at the most, how to run and gun with great hits. I could seee if it took days, weeks to aquire the ability, repeated maintenance might be necessary [ as a trained skill that works against ones natural abilities ], but if you are using your natural abilities, are shown how to perform something that comes naturally, I personally don't see a high maintenance routine to keep the skills to do so.

QK uses natural ability, the other key which I had worked out some 15 years ago uses a natural ability, and the two combined lead one to use another natural ability [ running and hitting at a very high success rate ], it's really that simple, as you know Roger :cool:

We are not going to divulge the key that unlocks QK to it's full potential, the advanced QK skills which take one to this in any public venue. Roger and I understand it well, have worked it till it is easily transferred to others and students will be the beneficiaries of this in classes.

I've had at least one "trainer" attempt to take QK from my narrative already, and use it's name for profit [ due to name recognition of the QK program and his established reputation ]. He didn]t care that he didn't really comprehend the skill, could not really impart it to others properly, he was only after the money aspect it could bring him [ to the detriment of his students and the QK name ].

I'm not predisposed to let that happen as I own the registered copyright to the pistol QK skills. Consequently, I'm not about to openly write the other key ingredient I had developed long ago, which Roger immediatley recognized, in being able to enhance QK to the advanced form it takes today [ flat out running and hitting ].

One day I will finish the paper on the other key I mention here and get the registered copyrights to it as well. In the meantime, students will be the beneficiary of the skills we can impart without ever realizing the key I speak of is being used [ it is that natural to the human species ].

Maintenance? Not much if any once people are shown how to unlock their natural abilities to flat out run and hit with better success than others have ever come to know before us.

[RAM]

RAM, what are your thoughts on whether this skill needs to be practiced regularly. I am leaning to the fact that once it is learned it is a natural ability that requires very little maintenace.

Jmusic, brownie jump in and let me know your thoughts on this.

Agreed, Once you unlock the basic concepts and stop trying to align the sights it really is a more natural way of shooting on the move and as such shouldn't need lots of practice... but hey, practice, when it comes to shootin is fun! :D

[sweatnbullets]

Agreed, Once you unlock the basic concepts and stop trying to align the sights it really is a more natural way of shooting on the move and as such shouldn't need lots of practice... but hey, practice, when it comes to shootin is fun! :D

Yes, practicing is fun, consistant practice will lead to better confidence, and you all know what I say about confidence. It is the ultimate key to threat focus shooting. Good to hear that my observations are on track. It is becoming more and more obvious to me that a natural ability is going to be better under stress than a conditioned ability.

The shooting on the run that we teach is a gross motor skill using ones natural ability. I can not think of a better response while under extreme stress.

Spooky8, what are your thoughts on this?