Quick Kill in Pennsylvania, May 07

[gb-ak]

Hello, all.

I am a new poster here. I wanted to throw out a few thoughts about Brownie's QK course I attended this past weekend in Eastern PA.

This course was the first one I attended that put emphasis on FAST, accurate shooting on a life-sized target. The idea is (obviously) to put rounds on target before the "target" can put rounds on you. There was no worry about group sizes, as long as one delivered hits where one was told to hit, meaning to vitals. My personal "firsts" were as follows:

1. No use of sights.
2. Close-in shooting, 6 feet or less, no looking at the gun at all, as soon as the holster is cleared, the forearm is parallel to the ground with elbow locked to the side.
3. Shooting at multiple, close targets from the QK hip.
4. Shooting as soon as barrel/slide end is picked up in peripheral vision and the reference point on target is established.
5. Running flat out while putting rounds on target.
6. Changing direction of movement while putting rounds on target.
7. Recoil control for long shot strings by establishing a rhythm, which actually made it easier to shoot quickly as opposed to slowly.

There are other thoughts that I am still digesting. The bottom line is that after 20-some years of using sights, I was able to hit much more quickly, on the move, standing still, jumping off the threat line, etc...

Thank you, Brownie - I really appreciated your personal attention, encouragement, and your excitement when I (as well as others) succeeded.

I look forward to training with you again.

Best - George

[Brownie]

Welcome to the campfire here sir.

Thanks for your thoughts and comments here George.

I really enjoyed meeting you last weekend at the Integrated Threat Focused Training Systems Pistol Course as well as working the blades on Monday.

I'm looking forward to working with you again in Oct on the return trip there in Easton. Until then, keep your eyes on the threat and run the gun instinctively using your own natural abilities.

Your ability to put rds on threat immediately using various skills, dependant on circumstances, from extremely close out to 30 feet are superb.

[David Williams]

Welcome aboard, George. Glad to see that you enjoyed your time with Brownie!

[gb-ak]

Thank you, Brownie and David.

I never took part in formalized competitions like IPSC or IDPA, and never worried about developing the ability to make 2-inch groups at 25 yards. I was and am interested in having the ability to put multiple rounds on a close threat, ASAP. I think that while competions can be exciting and fun, they do not represent street reality well. This is primarily because one is worried about following the rules and getting the best score.

In my experience, there are no rules on the street, except one - survive. That means that if a threat cannot be avoided without violence, one must try to put rounds on the threat first, or will likely lose.. Two-inch groups mean nothing.

Brownie's course completely validated my outlook on this. I know that I can quickly and instinctively put rounds on a threat, from close-in to further away, in front of me, behind me, on the move, even while falling down (as proven by my skinned knees, elbows, etc. during the course). That's what I train for, nothing else.

Once again, thank you, Brownie - this was exactly what I needed.

Best - George

[Brownie]

Yes,

George was moving like a hellstorm laterally to his non-dominant side, 12-14 feet from the threat, after having just completed a quick feint and suddenly turning from shooting from his dominant side, when he got ahead of himself in his zeal to stay alive and not be shot [ with a little help from myself who was right on his heels throughout the whole "ordeal" and yelling in his ear :eek: ]

George "cowboy'ed up" while falling forward onto his face/chest, arm extended and firing the whole time as he hit the dirt and kept making the shots in an effort to keep that "wall of bullets" on the threat, not once taking his eyes or gun off the threat and continued to make the shots while literally eating the Pennsylvania countryside. :D

If I remember correctly, he only missed two shots out of a high cap mag throughout his "journey" of throwing himself to the ground to end that "trip" in his attempt to kiss mother earth herself:cool:

I was literally right over him when he slide locked waiting for him to finish with the bad guy so I could help him up off the ground. In a few words from Billy Crystal, "You looked maawvelous";)

The hit ratio on threat, for the weekend between all the students, was somewhere around 92% for all the skills we covered between 4 and 30 feet. George was closer to 96% for two days with a round count of 1500-1600 rds downrange.

Keep hiding behind that wall of bullets George, your hits were fanatastic all weekend.

After all that, George attended the Monday defensive edged weapons training as well. We put some pain on each other again didnt we George?

[gb-ak]

Yes, sir - we sure did! And I had thought that I was going to relax on Monday! That was a great session - thank you; my arms are still a light shade of yellow! By the way, next time I am wearing knee pads at the range!

I wanted to mention one other thing: I noticed that after the entire weekend of shooting, I had no muscular pain in my upper body and arms at all. After attending other courses where I fired half as many rounds or less, I was left with aching arms, shoulders, neck, etc. from constantly straining to keep the sights aligned. In your course, I was able to relax, concentrate on the target, and deliver without going through this whole process of continuous muscle contraction.

Best - George

[Brownie]

So basically my arms look like yours. :D I'm heading off Monday on a 1900 mile motorcycle trip to Tenn for 9 days of class there.

Good observation on the muscles not tiring from hunching shoulders getting to the sights George. We had talked about that on Sunday or Monday as well while I was out there.

Stay safe out there.

[Beagles747]

Brownie's course completely validated my outlook on this. I know that I can quickly and instinctively put rounds on a threat, from close-in to further away, in front of me, behind me, on the move, even while falling down (as proven by my skinned knees, elbows, etc. during the course). That's what I train for, nothing else.
Once again, thank you, Brownie - this was exactly what I needed.
Best - George

Welcome George! Oh and by the way....

That feeling you got at the end of the training...and then thinking about it all over again in your head?

Isn't it great!!!!!????? I first trained with Brownie on January 1st of this year. He opened up a huge door for me to walk through.... I'm still learning. It's good stuff!

Really good stuff that can save your butt in a real situation.

-John

[gb-ak]

Thanks for the welcome, John!

Yes - absolutely. It is great stuff.

I am still digesting the training. The great thing about this is the fact that it feels very natural, with no complicated procedures to follow, it just feels right. The feeling I got at the end of the course was that of confidence. This confidence, combined with situational awareness skills, makes me feel more secure than ever before.

Best - George

[JMusic]

Welcome gb-ak, sounds like you had fun last weekend.:cool:


Jim

[Beagles747]

Thanks for the welcome, John!
The feeling I got at the end of the course was that of confidence. This confidence, combined with situational awareness skills, makes me feel more secure than ever before.

"Ditto"

The training did more for me than I have time to describe right now...but to kind of round it out I'll just say it brought me closer to becomming "One" with my gun!

-John

[gb-ak]

Thanks for the welcome, Jim.

Yea, John - I certainly felt more "connected" to my G19 than ever before!

Best - George